{"id":1612,"date":"2018-11-05T08:00:26","date_gmt":"2018-11-05T07:00:26","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/?p=1612"},"modified":"2018-11-05T01:24:15","modified_gmt":"2018-11-05T00:24:15","slug":"challengeaz-%e2%94%82-d-dissay-un-cedre-de-jussieu","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/","title":{"rendered":"#ChallengeAZ \u2502 D&#8230; Dissay : un c\u00e8dre de Jussieu ?"},"content":{"rendered":"<div id=\"attachment_1679\" style=\"width: 810px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1679\" data-attachment-id=\"1679\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/le-cedre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?fit=800%2C535&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"800,535\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1516727934&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Le c\u00e8dre de dissay cpa jules robuchon\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Le c\u00e8dre de Dissay, photo Jules ROBUCHON&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?fit=300%2C201&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?fit=584%2C391&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1679 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?resize=584%2C391\" alt=\"Le c\u00e8dre de Dissay, Vienne 86, Jules ROBUCHON\" width=\"584\" height=\"391\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?w=800&amp;ssl=1 800w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?resize=300%2C201&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?resize=768%2C514&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Le-c\u00e8dre-de-dissay-cpa-jules-robuchon.jpg?resize=449%2C300&amp;ssl=1 449w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 584px) 100vw, 584px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1679\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Le c\u00e8dre de Dissay, photo Jules ROBUCHON \u25b2 clic sur la photo pour l&rsquo;agrandir<\/p><\/div>\n<h1><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Il y avait \u00e0 Dissay, au d\u00e9but du XX\u00e8 si\u00e8cle, un magnifique c\u00e8dre du Liban.<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 immortalis\u00e9 par la carte postale de Jules ROBUCHON.\u00a0La l\u00e9gende de cette carte postale peut nous laisser penser que ce c\u00e8dre est celui que <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr\/histmed\/image?CIPB1051\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Bernard de\u00a0JUSSIEU<\/a> a rapport\u00e9 en France en 1734.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1698\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1698\" data-attachment-id=\"1698\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/bernard-de-jussieu-apporte-dangleterre-le-pied-de-cedre-du-liban\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?fit=915%2C675&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"915,675\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Bernard de Jussieu apporte d&amp;rsquo;Angleterre le pied de c\u00e8dre du Liban\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Bernard de Jussieu apporte d&amp;rsquo;Angleterre le pied de c\u00e8dre du Liban, gravure &lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?fit=300%2C221&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?fit=584%2C431&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1698 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban-300x221.jpg?resize=300%2C221\" alt=\"Bernard de Jussieu, c\u00e8de du Liban, g\u00e9n\u00e9alogie, botanique\" width=\"300\" height=\"221\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?resize=300%2C221&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?resize=768%2C567&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?resize=407%2C300&amp;ssl=1 407w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Bernard-de-Jussieu-apporte-dAngleterre-le-pied-de-c\u00e8dre-du-Liban.jpg?w=915&amp;ssl=1 915w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1698\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Extrait de \u00ab\u00a0Vies des savants illustres depuis l&rsquo;antiquit\u00e9 jusqu&rsquo;au XIXe si\u00e8cle\u00a0\u00bb, par Louis Guillaume FIGUIER, Hachette, 1872 \u00a9 banque d&rsquo;images BIU Sant\u00e9 \u25b2 clic sur l&rsquo;image pour l&rsquo;agrandir<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">En r\u00e9alit\u00e9 <a href=\"http:\/\/www.biusante.parisdescartes.fr\/histoire\/medica\/resultats\/index.php?do=page&amp;cote=extbnfdechambrex052&amp;p=725\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">JUSSIEU<\/a> rapporta bien deux petits c\u00e8dres en France en 1734, non pas depuis le Liban mais tout simplement d&rsquo;Angleterre o\u00f9 il y en avait depuis longtemps contrairement \u00e0 la France !\u00a0JUSSIEU \u00e9tait directeur du Jardin du Roi \u00e0 Paris <em>(maintenant le Jardin des Plantes)<\/em>, <a href=\"https:\/\/krapooarboricole.wordpress.com\/2009\/11\/27\/le-cedre-du-jardin-des-plantes-paris\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">il y planta donc un de ses c\u00e8dres<\/a>. L&rsquo;autre alla dans la P\u00e9pini\u00e8re du Roi.<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Par la suite beaucoup de communes ont affirm\u00e9 que le c\u00e8dre plant\u00e9 chez elles \u00e9tait celui apport\u00e9 par Jussieu. En fait il s&rsquo;agit s\u00fbrement de rejetons de ces 2 premiers c\u00e8dres, car jusqu&rsquo;\u00e0 la fin de sa vie le c\u00e9l\u00e8bre botaniste se fit un devoir de les multiplier, et il diss\u00e9mina une foule de plants dans la France enti\u00e8re.<em>\u00a0<\/em><\/p>\n<ul style=\"list-style-type: square;\">\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><a href=\"http:\/\/www.collections.chateau-sceaux.fr\/Record.htm?idlist=1&amp;record=19155816124919730989\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">A Montigny-Lencoup<\/a>, Trudaine, intendant g\u00e9n\u00e9ral des Finances et directeur des p\u00e9pini\u00e8res royales en r\u00e9cup\u00e9ra un qu&rsquo;il planta dans le parc du ch\u00e2teau qu&rsquo;il avait fait construire.<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">Un autre aurait \u00e9t\u00e9 donn\u00e9 au Baron de Livenne, Seigneur de <a href=\"http:\/\/ballans.wifeo.com\/cedre-du-liban.php\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Ballans<\/a> (17).<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">Un autre au <a href=\"http:\/\/unrpa.houilles.chez.com\/unrpa-archives\/unrpa-2008\/duhameldumonceau.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">botaniste Henri-Louis DUHAMEL DU MONCEAU<\/a>, dans le Loiret.<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">Un \u00e0 <a href=\"https:\/\/krapooarboricole.wordpress.com\/2008\/11\/02\/cedre-du-liban-tours-indre-et-loire\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tours<\/a>, dans le jardin de l&rsquo;Archev\u00each\u00e9 <em>(maintenant le jardin du Mus\u00e9e des Beaux-Arts)<\/em>, plant\u00e9 en 1804.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Notre ancien c\u00e8dre de La Morini\u00e8re serait donc de ceux-l\u00e0 ? Mais alors\u00a0: pourquoi \u00e0 Dissay\u00a0?\u00a0D&rsquo;autant plus qu&rsquo;il n&rsquo;\u00e9tait m\u00eame pas dans le parc du Ch\u00e2teau\u00a0!\u00a0Et pourquoi \u00e0 La Morini\u00e8re\u00a0?\u00a0<\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">La Morini\u00e8re est certes une tr\u00e8s ancienne propri\u00e9t\u00e9. En 1469, c&rsquo;est Pierre LAIGNEAU, valet de chambre de Louis XI, qui est \u00ab\u00a0escuier&#8230; et seigneur de l&rsquo;ostel de la Morini\u00e8re\u00a0\u00bb <em>(Source Gallica).<\/em><\/p>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">La Morini\u00e8re change plusieurs fois de mains au cours des si\u00e8cles :<\/p>\n<ul style=\"list-style-type: square;\">\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">En 1776, c&rsquo;est Bernard MORIN DES MEZERETS, ancien Conseiller au parlement de Paris, qui ach\u00e8te la propri\u00e9t\u00e9 \u00e0 la veuve de Jacques Claude GALLETIER, avocat au pr\u00e9sidial de Poitiers. Il la garde jusqu&rsquo;en 1823. On peut donc penser que c&rsquo;est lui qui a fait planter le c\u00e8dre . Les dates concordent.<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">En 1829 Paul Eutrope GERVAIS ach\u00e8te La Morini\u00e8re.<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\">Son petit-fils, le docteur <a href=\"http:\/\/gallica.bnf.fr\/ark:\/12148\/bpt6k5419986n.f82\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Am\u00e9d\u00e9e-Firmin MAURAT<\/a>, d\u00e9clare plus tard qu&rsquo; \u00ab\u00a0<em>il y avait dans cette propri\u00e9t\u00e9 un c\u00e8dre du Liban centenaire\u00a0<\/em>\u00bb et \u00ab\u00a0<em>le c\u00e8dre du Jardin des Plantes \u00e9tait loin d&rsquo;atteindre les proportions gigantesques du c\u00e8dre de Dissay\u00a0<\/em>\u00bb. Ce que l&rsquo;on peut v\u00e9rifier en voyant la carte postale\u00a0!<br \/>\nEt, toujours d&rsquo;apr\u00e8s lui, La Morini\u00e8re \u00e9tait un ancien rendez-vous de chasse des princes de Cond\u00e9.\u00a0\u00a0 (mais\u00a0: \u00e0 quelle \u00e9poque?)<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Cependant, lors des ventes successives, sur les actes notari\u00e9s, ce c\u00e8dre n&rsquo;est jamais mentionn\u00e9\u00a0! M\u00eame lors de la vente de 1873 suite au d\u00e9c\u00e8s de Paul Eutrope GERVAIS. Il est juste indiqu\u00e9 \u00ab\u00a0un bois\u00a0\u00bb.<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>O\u00f9 \u00e9tait-il\u00a0?<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Voici un essai de localisation en comparant la carte postale et la vue actuelle par Google Earth.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1700\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1700\" data-attachment-id=\"1700\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/implantation-estimee-du-cedre-de-dissay\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?fit=775%2C468&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"775,468\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"Implantation estim\u00e9e du c\u00e8dre de Dissay\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Emplacement estim\u00e9 du c\u00e8dre de Dissay \u25b2 clic sur l&amp;rsquo;image pour l&amp;rsquo;agrandir&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?fit=300%2C181&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?fit=584%2C353&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1700 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay-300x181.jpg?resize=300%2C181\" alt=\"Dissay, c\u00e8dre, Vienne 86, arbre remarquable\" width=\"300\" height=\"181\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?resize=300%2C181&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?resize=768%2C464&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?resize=497%2C300&amp;ssl=1 497w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/Implantation-estim\u00e9e-du-c\u00e8dre-de-Dissay.jpg?w=775&amp;ssl=1 775w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1700\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emplacement estim\u00e9 du c\u00e8dre de Dissay \u25b2 clic sur l&rsquo;image pour l&rsquo;agrandir<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Dans son inventaire des arbres remarquables, \u00ab\u00a0Vienne-Nature\u00a0\u00bb le situe juste un peu plus loin que moi\u00a0:<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1701\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1701\" data-attachment-id=\"1701\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-vienne-nature-v2\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2.jpg?fit=433%2C249&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"433,249\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"emplacement du cedre de dissay d&amp;rsquo;apres Vienne Nature v2\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Emplacement du c\u00e8dre de Dissay d&amp;rsquo;apr\u00e8s \u00ab\u00a0Vienne Nature\u00a0\u00bb&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2.jpg?fit=300%2C173&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2.jpg?fit=433%2C249&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1701 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2-300x173.jpg?resize=300%2C173\" alt=\"Dissay, c\u00e8dre, arbre remarquable, Vienne 86\" width=\"300\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2.jpg?resize=300%2C173&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/emplacement-du-cedre-de-dissay-dapres-Vienne-Nature-v2.jpg?w=433&amp;ssl=1 433w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1701\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Emplacement du c\u00e8dre de Dissay d&rsquo;apr\u00e8s \u00ab\u00a0Vienne Nature\u00a0\u00bb \u25b2 clic sur l&rsquo;image pour l&rsquo;agrandir<\/p><\/div>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">Vers 1870, si l&rsquo;on en croit Am\u00e9d\u00e9e MAURAT, le c\u00e8dre \u00e9tait tr\u00e8s grand. Il \u00e9tait encore l\u00e0, majestueux, quand Jules ROBUCHON l&rsquo;a pris en photo, vers 1900.<\/p>\n<h1 style=\"text-align: justify;\"><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\"><strong>Quand est-il tomb\u00e9\u00a0?<\/strong><\/span><\/h1>\n<p style=\"text-align: justify;\">En 1929 il n&rsquo;\u00e9tait plus l\u00e0\u00a0: cette ann\u00e9e-l\u00e0 mon grand-oncle, qui habitait La Morini\u00e8re depuis 1923,\u00a0 avait essay\u00e9 de r\u00e9cup\u00e9rer le jeune c\u00e8dre qui \u00e9tait \u00e0 Fortpuits. Ce \u00ab\u00a0jeune\u00a0\u00bb c\u00e8dre existe toujours. D&rsquo;apr\u00e8s la m\u00e9moire familiale il serait n\u00e9 vers 1916, sous le grand c\u00e8dre [d&rsquo;ailleurs, n&rsquo;est-ce pas lui qu&rsquo;on aper\u00e7oit \u00e0 gauche de la carte postale?].<\/p>\n<p><strong>Serait-il tomb\u00e9 en d\u00e9cembre 1925\u00a0?<br \/>\n<\/strong><span style=\"text-align: justify;\">Les archives de M\u00e9t\u00e9o France nous apprennent que, du 20 au 24 d\u00e9cembre 1925 \u00ab\u00a0quatre temp\u00eates successives balayent la France\u00a0\u00bb. Et \u00e0 Ch\u00e2tellerault la tribune du Stade de rugby s&rsquo;est retourn\u00e9e.<\/span><strong><br \/>\n<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_1702\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><a href=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"><img aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-1702\" data-attachment-id=\"1702\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/la-tempete-a-chatellerault\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg?fit=692%2C398&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"692,398\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"La temp\u00eate \u00e0 Chatellerault\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Temp\u00eate du 20 au 25 d\u00e9cembre 1925 de passage \u00e0 Ch\u00e2tellerault \u00a9 Meteo-Paris.com, les chroniques m\u00e9t\u00e9o en 1925 \u25b2 clic sur l&amp;rsquo;image pour l&amp;rsquo;agrandir&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-medium-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg?fit=300%2C173&amp;ssl=1\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg?fit=584%2C336&amp;ssl=1\" loading=\"lazy\" class=\"wp-image-1702 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault-300x173.jpg?resize=300%2C173\" alt=\"Temp\u00eate, 1925, Meteo France, Ch\u00e2tellerault\" width=\"300\" height=\"173\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg?resize=300%2C173&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg?resize=500%2C288&amp;ssl=1 500w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/herage.org\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2018\/11\/La-temp\u00eate-\u00e0-Chatellerault.jpg?w=692&amp;ssl=1 692w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" data-recalc-dims=\"1\" \/><\/a><p id=\"caption-attachment-1702\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Temp\u00eate du 20 au 25 d\u00e9cembre 1925 de passage \u00e0 Ch\u00e2tellerault \u00a9 Meteo-Paris.com, les chroniques m\u00e9t\u00e9o en 1925 \u25b2 clic sur l&rsquo;image pour l&rsquo;agrandir<\/p><\/div>\n<p><strong>A-t-il \u00e9t\u00e9 d\u00e9truit par la foudre\u00a0?<\/strong> Comme le pr\u00e9tend la m\u00e9moire familiale\u2026<br \/>\n<strong>A-t-il \u00e9t\u00e9 tout simplement vendu \u00e0 un marchand\u00a0?<\/strong> Comme le regrettait Am\u00e9d\u00e9e MAURAT cit\u00e9 pr\u00e9c\u00e9demment (mais s\u00fbrement pas pour faire des allumettes\u00a0!\u2026 des allumettes en bois de c\u00e8dre\u00a0!\u2026).<br \/>\nMais il g\u00eanait certainement dans ce champs cultiv\u00e9&#8230; tel qu&rsquo;on le voit sur la carte postale.<\/p>\n<p>Je n&rsquo;ai pas encore la r\u00e9ponse&#8230;<\/p>\n<hr \/>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong><span style=\"font-size: 14pt;\">Les PLUS \u00e0 consulter<\/span><\/strong><\/span> : <strong>quelques liens utiles :<\/strong><\/p>\n<ul>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Nos anc\u00eatres ont-ils v\u00e9cu des catastrophes naturelles ?<\/strong> Vous pouvez consulter la rubrique <a href=\"http:\/\/www.herage.org\/histoire_climat.htm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">\u00ab\u00a0le climat en Poitou\u00a0\u00bb<\/a> sur notre site Herage.org ainsi que les chroniques m\u00e9t\u00e9o du site<a href=\"http:\/\/www.meteo-paris.com\/chronique\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\"> \u00ab\u00a0meteo-paris.com\u00a0\u00bb<\/a> qui r\u00e9pertorie les \u00e9v\u00e9nements m\u00e9t\u00e9orologiques en France de 1850 \u00e0 nos jours.\u00a0<\/li>\n<li style=\"text-align: justify;\"><strong>Nos anc\u00eatres avaient-ils un arbre remarquable sur leurs terres ?<\/strong> Pour pouvoir les rep\u00e9rer, vous pouvez consulter <a href=\"https:\/\/www.arbres.org\/arbres_remarquables.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">la carte de France des arbres remarquables<\/a>\u00a0relev\u00e9s par l&rsquo;association A.R.B.R.E.S, mais aussi\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/krapooarboricole.wordpress.com\/liste-des-arbres-venerables\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">la liste des arbres v\u00e9n\u00e9rables<\/a>\u00a0sur le site \u00ab\u00a0Krapo arboricole\u00a0\u00bb (des liens sont propos\u00e9s vers des articles document\u00e9s et illustr\u00e9s) et enfin vous pouvez utiliser <a href=\"http:\/\/geoportail.biodiversite-nouvelle-aquitaine.fr\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">le portail cartographique de l&rsquo;Agence r\u00e9gionale de la biodiversit\u00e9 en Nouvelle-Aquitaine<\/a>.<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n<p><span style=\"color: #ff6600;\"><strong>Ci-dessous cartographie des lieux cit\u00e9s au cours de ce Challenge AZ. <br \/>\nCliquez sur les \u00e9pingles pour acc\u00e9der aux articles d\u00e9j\u00e0 publi\u00e9s.<br \/>\n\u25bc<\/strong><\/span><\/p>\n<p><iframe loading=\"lazy\" src=\"https:\/\/umap.openstreetmap.fr\/fr\/map\/carte_challengeaz_2018_cgp_261169?scaleControl=false&amp;miniMap=false&amp;scrollWheelZoom=false&amp;zoomControl=true&amp;allowEdit=false&amp;moreControl=true&amp;searchControl=null&amp;tilelayersControl=null&amp;embedControl=null&amp;datalayersControl=true&amp;onLoadPanel=none&amp;captionBar=false\" width=\"100%\" height=\"300px\" frameborder=\"0\" allowfullscreen=\"allowfullscreen\"><\/iframe><\/p>\n<p><a href=\"https:\/\/umap.openstreetmap.fr\/fr\/map\/carte_challengeaz_2018_cgp_261169\">Voir en plein \u00e9cran<\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Il y avait \u00e0 Dissay, au d\u00e9but du XX\u00e8 si\u00e8cle, un magnifique c\u00e8dre du Liban. Il a \u00e9t\u00e9 immortalis\u00e9 par la carte postale de Jules ROBUCHON.\u00a0La l\u00e9gende de cette carte postale peut nous laisser penser que ce c\u00e8dre est celui &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/1612\/\">Continuer la lecture <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":719,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"spay_email":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_is_tweetstorm":false,"jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true},"categories":[163],"tags":[95,240],"jetpack_publicize_connections":[],"jetpack_featured_media_url":"","jetpack_sharing_enabled":true,"jetpack_shortlink":"https:\/\/wp.me\/p4fVnZ-q0","jetpack-related-posts":[{"id":2765,"url":"https:\/\/herage.org\/blog\/https:\/blog.herage.org\/p=\/2765\/","url_meta":{"origin":1612,"position":0},"title":"Calendrier de l&rsquo;avent du CGP : Jour 3","date":"3 d\u00e9cembre 2019","format":false,"excerpt":"Pour le mois de d\u00e9cembre 2019, nous vous proposons d\u2019ouvrir la bo\u00eete \u00e0 souvenirs. 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